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	<description>It is way better to be me than to be someone who has to deal with me.</description>
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		<title>By: Temerity Jane &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Recent aggravations</title>
		<link>http://temerity-jane.com/blogging/no-it-is-not-just-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-21788</link>
		<dc:creator>Temerity Jane &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Recent aggravations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1. I think that, if you&#8217;ve been reading this blog long enough, you know that I drink a lot of diet soda. I don&#8217;t make any secret of it, or any apologies for it, or do that fake thing where I also tell you how much water I drink or how healthy I am otherwise because, well, those would be lies and I pride myself on not telling the Internet lies. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] 1. I think that, if you&#8217;ve been reading this blog long enough, you know that I drink a lot of diet soda. I don&#8217;t make any secret of it, or any apologies for it, or do that fake thing where I also tell you how much water I drink or how healthy I am otherwise because, well, those would be lies and I pride myself on not telling the Internet lies. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Al_Pal</title>
		<link>http://temerity-jane.com/blogging/no-it-is-not-just-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-19770</link>
		<dc:creator>Al_Pal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 06:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely is not just the internet. 

I&#039;m not quite sure what to think of Nic--some of my twitter friends [still] talk to her, so I&#039;m guessing she&#039;s got some good qualities. I kind of HOPE that she hallucinated it, because that would be better than lying for attention&#039;s sake. Still disturbing, and if one is prone to hallucinations, one should not make widely published accusations!

Definitely not just the internet. Le sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely is not just the internet. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure what to think of Nic&#8211;some of my twitter friends [still] talk to her, so I&#8217;m guessing she&#8217;s got some good qualities. I kind of HOPE that she hallucinated it, because that would be better than lying for attention&#8217;s sake. Still disturbing, and if one is prone to hallucinations, one should not make widely published accusations!</p>
<p>Definitely not just the internet. Le sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: MiddleAged&#38;Crazy</title>
		<link>http://temerity-jane.com/blogging/no-it-is-not-just-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-11291</link>
		<dc:creator>MiddleAged&#38;Crazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this day and age where Big Brother does exist, how can anyone even begin to think that what they do or say for that matter is not recorded in some form or fashion, especially in a airport.  I fell for her family and one day for her child who will hopefully never find out about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this day and age where Big Brother does exist, how can anyone even begin to think that what they do or say for that matter is not recorded in some form or fashion, especially in a airport.  I fell for her family and one day for her child who will hopefully never find out about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bear Butt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Bear Butt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, you&#039;ve got more than one blog? Dang it, I only have the one on my feedreader! Where are the others? I&#039;m missing out on prime TJ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you&#8217;ve got more than one blog? Dang it, I only have the one on my feedreader! Where are the others? I&#8217;m missing out on prime TJ?</p>
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		<title>By: sister</title>
		<link>http://temerity-jane.com/blogging/no-it-is-not-just-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-11274</link>
		<dc:creator>sister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what the scary part is here? That crazy lady might actually believe her version of events even after being confronted with evidence completely to the contrary. Anyway, she craaazy. And not because she has anxiety. BITCH PLEASE, we all got that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what the scary part is here? That crazy lady might actually believe her version of events even after being confronted with evidence completely to the contrary. Anyway, she craaazy. And not because she has anxiety. BITCH PLEASE, we all got that.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://temerity-jane.com/blogging/no-it-is-not-just-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-11272</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously.. people who lie on the internet just make me sick. As others have said (better than I), life is messed up enough without having to deal with people completely making shit up.

My sister-in-law is one of these people. She was living with us for a while, and we started getting letters addressed to her, but with a different last name than her actual one. It turned out that she had decided to take on this separate identity, there was something about her pretending to be her son, and actually had a girlfriend online... it was a mess. I still feel terrible for the person, or possibly people, that she duped with all of this.

Why would you DO that to someone? This was years ago now, but I recently found that she&#039;s on facebook now, and she has re-created this personality, and created a facebook profile for it, and even has it on her own friend list. W H Y ? I can&#039;t understand what you could possibly get out of playing with someone else&#039;s emotions like that. It&#039;s just... wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously.. people who lie on the internet just make me sick. As others have said (better than I), life is messed up enough without having to deal with people completely making shit up.</p>
<p>My sister-in-law is one of these people. She was living with us for a while, and we started getting letters addressed to her, but with a different last name than her actual one. It turned out that she had decided to take on this separate identity, there was something about her pretending to be her son, and actually had a girlfriend online&#8230; it was a mess. I still feel terrible for the person, or possibly people, that she duped with all of this.</p>
<p>Why would you DO that to someone? This was years ago now, but I recently found that she&#8217;s on facebook now, and she has re-created this personality, and created a facebook profile for it, and even has it on her own friend list. W H Y ? I can&#8217;t understand what you could possibly get out of playing with someone else&#8217;s emotions like that. It&#8217;s just&#8230; wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a subject very close to my heart, having outed a doozie of a lying liar blogger earlier this year. (That precious six year old daughter whose death from a brain tumor she was numb with grief over? Um...not so real. Chick didn&#039;t even have kids.) 

I&#039;m totally with you that it *does* matter, it really really really does. People genuinely care about what they read in blogs. (Why else would so-called &quot;strangers&quot; contribute tens of thousands of dollars to the March of Dimes after Maddie Spohr died? Why do people like Matt Logelin and Stephanie Nielsen find packages on their doorsteps?) And when you believe what you&#039;re reading is real, and you invest genuine emotional energy in it, but it&#039;s not real, that&#039;s just....Not. Right. Even if it&#039;s not illegal, it&#039;s unethical. And if a blogger is outed telling one lie, it makes everything they&#039;ve ever posted suspect. And yes, it poisons the water for everyone, making all blogs just that much less trustworthy.

I think most people think of themselves as pretty savvy virtual consumers by now. We don&#039;t forward Snopes-y emails, we know about the Nigerian bank thing, etc etc. But people still often take blogs at face value and invest their emotional capital online pretty easily, forgetting how easily it is to fabricate just about anything when there&#039;s no face to face interaction. (The good news is that you can&#039;t fabricate absolutely *everything* without leaving a clue, which is why these people are almost always eventually tripped up by something -- a photo, a video, an IP address.) 

Anyway, would love to say more, but I&#039;m actually a 58 year old man living in my mother&#039;s basement, and it&#039;s time for my tv dinner with the cats. ;-) Oh, and I promise tomorrow I&#039;ll come back and say &quot;Eh, I guess it&#039;s kind of funny.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a subject very close to my heart, having outed a doozie of a lying liar blogger earlier this year. (That precious six year old daughter whose death from a brain tumor she was numb with grief over? Um&#8230;not so real. Chick didn&#8217;t even have kids.) </p>
<p>I&#8217;m totally with you that it *does* matter, it really really really does. People genuinely care about what they read in blogs. (Why else would so-called &#8220;strangers&#8221; contribute tens of thousands of dollars to the March of Dimes after Maddie Spohr died? Why do people like Matt Logelin and Stephanie Nielsen find packages on their doorsteps?) And when you believe what you&#8217;re reading is real, and you invest genuine emotional energy in it, but it&#8217;s not real, that&#8217;s just&#8230;.Not. Right. Even if it&#8217;s not illegal, it&#8217;s unethical. And if a blogger is outed telling one lie, it makes everything they&#8217;ve ever posted suspect. And yes, it poisons the water for everyone, making all blogs just that much less trustworthy.</p>
<p>I think most people think of themselves as pretty savvy virtual consumers by now. We don&#8217;t forward Snopes-y emails, we know about the Nigerian bank thing, etc etc. But people still often take blogs at face value and invest their emotional capital online pretty easily, forgetting how easily it is to fabricate just about anything when there&#8217;s no face to face interaction. (The good news is that you can&#8217;t fabricate absolutely *everything* without leaving a clue, which is why these people are almost always eventually tripped up by something &#8212; a photo, a video, an IP address.) </p>
<p>Anyway, would love to say more, but I&#8217;m actually a 58 year old man living in my mother&#8217;s basement, and it&#8217;s time for my tv dinner with the cats. ;-) Oh, and I promise tomorrow I&#8217;ll come back and say &#8220;Eh, I guess it&#8217;s kind of funny.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(OK, I didn&#039;t see a reply button so I could reply to your reply so I&#039;m apparently replying to my own.)

The general public, thanks to the media, might find it hard to believe but the military is really weird about morality type stuff, even if it isn&#039;t the enlisted person&#039;s behavior they&#039;re looking at.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if he had a nice little &quot;talking to&quot; coming to him.

And considering the way people were going after her, comments about calling CPS, posting her address, etc. I&#039;d be willing to bet someone at the base/post was contacted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(OK, I didn&#8217;t see a reply button so I could reply to your reply so I&#8217;m apparently replying to my own.)</p>
<p>The general public, thanks to the media, might find it hard to believe but the military is really weird about morality type stuff, even if it isn&#8217;t the enlisted person&#8217;s behavior they&#8217;re looking at.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if he had a nice little &#8220;talking to&#8221; coming to him.</p>
<p>And considering the way people were going after her, comments about calling CPS, posting her address, etc. I&#8217;d be willing to bet someone at the base/post was contacted.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can&#039;t tell the difference between hyperbole for comedic effect and flat out fabricating a story, then I suppose you have no issue.

The rest of your argument - about &quot;perception&quot; is 15 different kinds of ridiculous. She &quot;perceived&quot; something that didn&#039;t HAPPEN, and then not only told everyone that it did, but encouraged others to help her spread her false story.

Your MyBottlesUp/Dooce comparisons don&#039;t even make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t tell the difference between hyperbole for comedic effect and flat out fabricating a story, then I suppose you have no issue.</p>
<p>The rest of your argument &#8211; about &#8220;perception&#8221; is 15 different kinds of ridiculous. She &#8220;perceived&#8221; something that didn&#8217;t HAPPEN, and then not only told everyone that it did, but encouraged others to help her spread her false story.</p>
<p>Your MyBottlesUp/Dooce comparisons don&#8217;t even make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: rg</title>
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		<dc:creator>rg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think making a point to be morally outraged by the TSA issue is ridiculous.  Expecting an apology and being mad that one wasn&#039;t forthcoming seems very juvenile.  To think an agency like TSA would post footage that put them in a bad light is naive.  No one but the people there really know what happened, but Nic presented it the way she perceived it - if people got their panties wadded - she doesn&#039;t owe them an apology.

I think Dooce stretches the truth all the time in her case many refer to it as hyperbole, but in Nic&#039;s case she is &quot;lying.&quot;  If you held Dooce to the same standard, she likely lies in every post.  

rg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think making a point to be morally outraged by the TSA issue is ridiculous.  Expecting an apology and being mad that one wasn&#8217;t forthcoming seems very juvenile.  To think an agency like TSA would post footage that put them in a bad light is naive.  No one but the people there really know what happened, but Nic presented it the way she perceived it &#8211; if people got their panties wadded &#8211; she doesn&#8217;t owe them an apology.</p>
<p>I think Dooce stretches the truth all the time in her case many refer to it as hyperbole, but in Nic&#8217;s case she is &#8220;lying.&#8221;  If you held Dooce to the same standard, she likely lies in every post.  </p>
<p>rg</p>
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